What if there is NO NBA AND NFL next year?
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  1. cpetitjean3
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    Posted 03/12/2011 11:42 AM

    As we all know from the news. The headline in sports is the NFL trying to resolve their collective bargaining agreement which right now isn't looking to good for next year. There is a good chance that there is no 2011-2012 season in the NFL. Problem is that the NBA is in the same boat as the NFL for next year but it hasn't really been talked about. Their contract is up to after this season. So if worst comes to worst and next year we don't have the NFL or the NBA, what sports will you watch more? For me, I am a all around die hard sports fan. I would have to follow college football and basketball a little bit more. What would you do, watch nascar, golf? Comment!
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  1. Shawn503
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    Posted 03/12/2011 1:14 PM

    A lot of sports town would take a hit to their local economy. On the bright side, hopefully more people would follow the Timbers and the demand for an MLB team may increase.
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  1. Pamela Porter
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    Posted 03/12/2011 2:27 PM

    Well, since NFL and NBA are both winter sports and wouldn't impact on watching MLB or MLS, I'd be enjoying more NHL (hockey).  I'm already a great fan and season ticket holder to the Portland WinterHawks, and would continue in that sport, too.  I do miss our Lumberjax (la crosse) team this year.  They were awfully fun games to attend, also.
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  1. BDawg
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    Posted 03/12/2011 6:04 PM

    That possibility is why I questioned the LENGTH of Nate's extension.  In that event, Nate will only be coaching another season.  Again my question...which side was it that only wanted the deal to be a 2 year one and why?
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  1. TayC
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    Posted 03/12/2011 6:15 PM

    if both leagues lock out, it will make trying to find a job just that much harder.
    i mean who are you gonna take, Tom from portland or Tom Brady from Mass Bay.
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  1. Kingfisher
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    Posted 03/13/2011 12:37 AM

    Australian Rules Football  baby, we even have an American trying to make it in the pro's here - 6'6 Shae Mcnamara, I believe he played US College Bball, maybe send LA and Patty over during the lockout to play for my team the Carlton Blues, however I can't guarantee that they wont get hurt though.
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  1. TayC
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    Posted 03/14/2011 6:16 PM

    like austrailin soccer?
    or like Austrailian American Football? 
    ha, im confused, i didnt know you guys had footy foot ball
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  1. Crim
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    Posted 03/15/2011 11:17 AM

    People may finally "have time" to read,and more people will be foreced to give hockey and soccer a real chance, and they will see Basketball and Football aren't necesarily the best sports to watch, it's where the best athletes have been going because it's where the money is. But that could change, how many future athletes could this be deterring from continuing in a path to excel at a sport where the owner's treat their employees like this.
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  1. Crim
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    Posted 03/15/2011 11:18 AM

    And the 2012 Olympics will be in position to be the most watched in history.
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  1. KayLRZ
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    Posted 03/15/2011 12:07 PM

    ATP tennis! 
  1. machwonder
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    Posted 03/15/2011 3:32 PM

    Baseball is my favorite sport so baseball is an easy call for me. I'm a die-hard Mariner fan that would love to see a good product this year, but the organization hasn't done much in the off season so it may be another long year for the team. My second choice would be NASCAR. Basketball is a sport I watch when nothing else is on. I like the sport, but it's too controlled by the officiating and too judgemental by them as well. But I do enjoy it and have been a Blazer fan for a long time. As for football, college rocks! I'm a die-hard DUCK FAN. I could care less if the pros settle this mess of greed or not...
  1. TayC
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    Posted 03/15/2011 6:16 PM

    Posted By Crim on 03/15/2011 11:17 AM
    People may finally "have time" to read,and more people will be foreced to give hockey and soccer a real chance, and they will see Basketball and Football aren't necesarily the best sports to watch, it's where the best athletes have been going because it's where the money is. But that could change, how many future athletes could this be deterring from continuing in a path to excel at a sport where the owner's treat their employees like this.

    "some people call me a dreamer....."

    the only thing people are going to read are the fast food menu and the instructions on how to set up the Wii....and you know this....mANNNNNN

    If you ask me, baeball players get over paid in my eyes. I think it should be somewhat based on physical exertion, so basketball and soccer should be at the top with foot ball right under those. because lets face it, they basically put their bodies in car crashes......
    but in baseball, however much i love it and intense the playoffs are......can...get.....(yawn) a bit .....boring...and sleeppy.
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  1. Kingfisher
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    Posted 03/15/2011 6:41 PM

    Posted By TayC on 03/14/2011 6:16 PM
    like austrailin soccer?
    or like Austrailian American Football? 
    ha, im confused, i didnt know you guys had footy foot ball

    I don't think many Americans are aware of Aussie Rules Football.  It's nothing like soccer, rugby, NFL etc etc.  Its unique to Australia, however there are grassroots level leagues across the globe: USAFL in the States.  If you have not seen it before TAYC then You Tube it, lots of vision on there. You never know, you may like it, high scoring, contact sport, for an example look at this- http://http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJGeSRJ5MMQ


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  1. machwonder
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    Posted 03/18/2011 11:46 AM

    Posted By TayC on 03/15/2011 6:16 PM
    Posted By Crim on 03/15/2011 11:17 AM
    People may finally "have time" to read,and more people will be foreced to give hockey and soccer a real chance, and they will see Basketball and Football aren't necesarily the best sports to watch, it's where the best athletes have been going because it's where the money is. But that could change, how many future athletes could this be deterring from continuing in a path to excel at a sport where the owner's treat their employees like this.

    "some people call me a dreamer....."

    the only thing people are going to read are the fast food menu and the instructions on how to set up the Wii....and you know this....mANNNNNN

    If you ask me, baeball players get over paid in my eyes. I think it should be somewhat based on physical exertion, so basketball and soccer should be at the top with foot ball right under those. because lets face it, they basically put their bodies in car crashes......
    but in baseball, however much i love it and intense the playoffs are......can...get.....(yawn) a bit .....boring...and sleeppy.

    Really, baseball requires more talent IMP. You must be good at fielding, running, catching,throwing, and most importantly, hitting a baseball. A pitcher can lose up to 15 lbs pitching 1 game. And no one works more than a catcher. If you find it boring then you aren't really a fan. A true fan understands the every aspect of the game and the strategy involved. Danny Ainge found out that basketball was much easier than baseball for him as he couldn't make it in professional baseball. And look at the greatest basketball player that ever lived, Michael Jordan, he tried baseball and failed badly. Baseball has 162 game season as well. It's a long grind. Anyway, if we don't have the NFL and NBA there will still be the play-off's in baseball and college football, then college basketball to watch. I'm not a soccer fan but I do like hockey. So, there will be other choices. You won't see me whining if there is no NBA OR NFL. I can take it, or leave it...
  1. TayC
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    Posted 03/18/2011 4:38 PM

    well i have played both baseball and basketball, and i can say that i am pretty darn good at both.
    but to me, the court is harder to master. it requires more physical talent. In baseball there is no physical contact yet you have little if no margin for error.
    i am not trying to outdue one or the other, and i dont think that if you cant finish watching a 3 hour baseball game i dont think it DOES NOT make you a fan. sometimes it just is boring when a pitcher totally loads all the bases or when no one is scoring and then maybe a 3 run homefun in the 6th inning and no more points or anything.
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  1. machwonder
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    Posted 03/18/2011 5:24 PM

    Posted By TayC on 03/18/2011 4:38 PM
    well i have played both baseball and basketball, and i can say that i am pretty darn good at both.
    but to me, the court is harder to master. it requires more physical talent. In baseball there is no physical contact yet you have little if no margin for error.
    i am not trying to outdue one or the other, and i dont think that if you cant finish watching a 3 hour baseball game i dont think it DOES NOT make you a fan. sometimes it just is boring when a pitcher totally loads all the bases or when no one is scoring and then maybe a 3 run homefun in the 6th inning and no more points or anything.

    Try to remember that making a statement about basketball requiring more physical talent than baseball is just your opinion. I have stated mine and I played both also. Basketball IMP doesn't require as many skills as baseball, that is really a no-brainer. Do you have to be a better athlete to play in the NBA? I would say both sports require a different kind of athlete, you can't compare apples to oranges. And again, some baseball fans love a great pitching duel. A true fan loves the game, just like a true basketball fan loves basketball. I admit I watch basketball when nothing else is on, so I guess I'm not a true fan. Sometimes it can be boring to me watching players just shoot jump shots and run up and down the floor. I can't wait for baseball to finally get here. Thank goodness it's right around the corner. There's nothing like summer, and baseball!! Oh, IMHO!!
  1. TayC
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    Posted 03/18/2011 6:49 PM

    hahaha.
    summer and baseball - word on that. just add a pool and bbq and its over.
    baseball is more of a smarts where as basketball (on the proffesional level) is the brute or brawn. or kind of.
    nah but i understand what you mean like when you said "catcher is always playing" yeah, he is totally in charge of the game.

     I don't think many Americans are aware of Aussie Rules Football.  It's nothing like soccer, rugby, NFL etc etc.  Its unique to Australia, however there are grassroots level leagues across the globe: USAFL in the States.  If you have not seen it before TAYC then You Tube it, lots of vision on there. You never know, you may like it, high scoring, contact sport, for an example look at this- http://http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJGeSRJ5MMQ

    dude i dont think i have ever seen such an intense sport. there is a combination of several different sports, or parts form each are taken to form this hybrid pandemonium game. it looks soooooo hard, like borderline war..

    im down.
    its like Frissbe golf-bull riding - black jack- water polo- croquet.
    ha
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  1. machwonder
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    Posted 03/20/2011 4:01 PM

    Yeah I know what you mean. Sometimes it seems like the NBA players are just playing street-ball. But thanks for a nice conversation reguarding  this topic. Hey, I hope the Blazers play well tonight. It's nice seeing them play with fire in their eyes. I hope they bring it tonight. It will be a back to back game and on the road so, will see.
  1. Cosmojc
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    Posted 03/20/2011 6:51 PM

    well, we have what is supposed to be the second best basketball league in the world right here in spain...i´m sure some of the nba´s most precious players would end up here...but we won´t pay as much as the greeks,turkish...probably the chinese league will throw doller-bills in all-star´s faces...


    how about you guys following our leagues like we follow yours??
    not probably...i got that...
    I am a fan of the blazers 'cause they don´t rely on 1 particular player 2 take 25 shots a game 2 b competitive, the guy having THE NIGHT gets the ball..
  1. TayC
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    Posted 03/20/2011 7:26 PM

    yeah i dont think they follow foreign leagues, but i dont think its by choice.
    Honestly the television system here in the US is very limited to.....the u.s. or at least thats what it seems.
    We get a few foreign channels but i dont think they are in high demand because not enough people know about them.
    but if we have people who follow " The national Rodeo Clown Nascar Tour"
    then trust me dude, people will watch spanish basketball
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  1. Cosmojc
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    Posted 03/20/2011 8:07 PM

    thanks man...

    i apreciate the positive statement! but there will allways be the internet..no tv needed...i´m the living prove!
    i think its a question of interest...maybe college sports would get hyped in the us media to fill the need...but i think it could change basketball as the nba know´s
    or preaches it if peeps would take a look outside their borders...
    actually college b-ball and the european legues are pretty similar...although the fundamentals are tought here with more love for the detail then the muscle-strength-athletics skills that you with any doubt make the game so spectacular!

    but maybe you fellas are interested in seeing at least the highlights, even if it´s only to see J.Freeland crash some haeds...by the way he´s doing fine! not as good as last year...but he´s right there in the top 10 of big-men...

    again thanks for the positive answer TayC
    I am a fan of the blazers 'cause they don´t rely on 1 particular player 2 take 25 shots a game 2 b competitive, the guy having THE NIGHT gets the ball..
  1. Fallen_Deity
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    Posted 03/21/2011 1:16 AM

    If there is no NBA and no NFL next year, what will Cleveland fan have to cry over with the Cavs and Browns not there to lose?
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  1. turdferguson
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    Posted 03/21/2011 1:58 PM

    A pitcher can lose up to 15 lbs pitching 1 game. 

    lolwut?



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  1. Blazers712
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    Posted 03/21/2011 2:25 PM

    not goin to watch anything 
    games !!
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  1. TayC
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    Posted 03/21/2011 7:40 PM

    Posted By Fallen_Deity on 03/21/2011 1:16 AM
    If there is no NBA and no NFL next year, what will Cleveland fan have to cry over with the Cavs and Browns not there to lose?

    now thats funny.

    @cosmojc- i can tell you for sure that As much as the internet can be associated with the U.S. its mostly all the other countries that know or are allowed to properly use it, or at least that what it seems. Internet can be kinda of restricted at times or under watch by the "patriot act", and i am not to clear on all the copyright rules on watching games online, but what i do know is thank god for sportscenter.
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  1. machwonder
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    Posted 03/23/2011 4:19 PM

    Posted By turdferguson on 03/21/2011 1:58 PM
    A pitcher can lose up to 15 lbs pitching 1 game. 

    lolwut?




    Believe it, it's true. Especially in Texas, Florida or Calif. where it can get very hot in the summer. I should have said 10 to 15 lbs. These are the fireball pitchers, not the finesse pitchers. I will say that it does take a better athlete to play basketball based on running up and down the court. It is more demanding that's for sure. I get tired just thinking about it.
  1. TayC
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    Posted 03/23/2011 6:05 PM

    Yeah well January's edition of Mens health described how NBA players run up to 4 and a half miles a game.
    The PG position the most, the SF second most, SG, PF, C.
    Most- being distance or number of steps, i am unsure.
    but its crazy.
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  1. turdferguson
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    Posted 03/24/2011 10:49 AM

    Posted By machwonder on 03/23/2011 4:19 PM
    Posted By turdferguson on 03/21/2011 1:58 PM
    A pitcher can lose up to 15 lbs pitching 1 game. 

    lolwut?




    Believe it, it's true. Especially in Texas, Florida or Calif. where it can get very hot in the summer. I should have said 10 to 15 lbs. These are the fireball pitchers, not the finesse pitchers. I will say that it does take a better athlete to play basketball based on running up and down the court. It is more demanding that's for sure. I get tired just thinking about it.
    Sorry.  I don't believe it for a second.  
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  1. machwonder
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    Posted 03/24/2011 5:47 PM

    Posted By turdferguson on 03/24/2011 10:49 AM
    Posted By machwonder on 03/23/2011 4:19 PM
    Posted By turdferguson on 03/21/2011 1:58 PM
    A pitcher can lose up to 15 lbs pitching 1 game. 

    lolwut?




    Believe it, it's true. Especially in Texas, Florida or Calif. where it can get very hot in the summer. I should have said 10 to 15 lbs. These are the fireball pitchers, not the finesse pitchers. I will say that it does take a better athlete to play basketball based on running up and down the court. It is more demanding that's for sure. I get tired just thinking about it.
    Sorry.  I don't believe it for a second.  
    Stupidity is bliss.

  1. TayC
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    Posted 03/24/2011 6:35 PM

    hey i believe it! its all about the sweat.

    check it, i usually weigh in around 180 on a good day, before playing ball i always down about 3 glasses (16oz) of water and i hit the courts for about an hour to two hours.
    when i get home i jump on the scale before a shower and i am usually about 4-5 lbs lighter. and let me tell you this i am a smoker so i guarantee you i am not running around the entire time at full speed, i take some breaks you know.

    its that water weight that you carry with you from day to day, believe it or not.....try it for yourself.

    but 15 lbs, hahah thats so intense, tell that to Denks/Broxton and Bartolo Colon
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  1. turdferguson
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    Posted 03/25/2011 9:43 AM

    Posted By machwonder on 03/24/2011 5:47 PM
     
    Stupidity is bliss.


    So you actually expect me to believe that a pitcher like Tim Lincecum, who meets all of your criteria drops 15 lbs in one game?  He lives and plays a lot of his games in California (yeah SF is foggy and mild but he also plays a significant number of games against so Cal teams like LA and SD).  He brings the heat in a big way.  And he can pitch a full 9 innings with no relief.  His weight on mlb.com is listed at 165 lbs.  So when he goes back to the clubhouse at the end of a hard evening he now weighs in at 150-155 lbs?!

    At approximately 3500 calories to burn a lb. and 15 lbs burned he burns 52,500 calories.  Racing cyclist (20+ mph) can burn around 1200 to 1300 lbs per hour.  Cycling is known to be one of the most effective forms of exercise for burning calories.  At that rate you would have to ride at that pace for around 40 hours to burn that kind of weight.  Yet a pitcher manages to do it in a single evening?  Even if we go with your lower number of 10 lbs we are talking about 35000 calories burned.  At the cycling rate on the high end of the scale at 1300 calories per hour, that is still over 24 hours of riding.  Tour de France riders burn around 70 to 80k calories over the course of 3 weeks of riding.  

    Don't mean to derail a thread here but damn.  That number is so unrealistic I couldn't let it pass. 

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  1. machwonder
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    Posted 03/25/2011 1:57 PM

    I didn't say all pitchers, I said "A Pitcher" I was vague in my post and I apologize for the harsh comment. I was a pitcher once, and a pretty good one. I read a story years ago about Don Drysdale, the great LA Dodger pitcher that pitched along with Sandy Koufax in the 60's. Now Don was a very big man that threw in the mid 90's. He stated that he could lose up to 15lbs. pitching one game in Los Angles. I've heard other strories about large pitchers who threw hard in the hot summer and lost a lot of weight doing it. Back then a pitcher like Drysdale usually pitched the whole game. They didn't have a middle relief pitcher and a closer like today. The pitchers back then didn't have a pitch count either, so it was much easier to lose weight. These were the "WORKHORSE' pitchers of yesterday. Today the weight lost from pitching can still reach 10 lbs for a very big man. They consume a lot of water to stay hydrated, but if they consume too much they can get sick, so they have to be careful. I tried to find one article on the subject and came up empty googling it, so I can't blame you for being skeptical. It's obvious weight is lost when pitching at any level, for any sized pitcher, but how much is lost varies among age, size, pitch-count, and how hard a pitcher brings it. You probably shouldn't get too technical on the subject, as evey pitchers chemistry make-up is different, so different results are to be expected. I'll bet on a hot summer day with humidity at 90% or better CC Sabathia would reach the 10 lb. mark.

    Having said that.... "Go Blazers" crush San Antonio tonight!!! 
  1. TayC
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    Posted 03/25/2011 4:25 PM

    yeah, wow, i cant believe how literal you took that,guy.
    i think perhaps that is another difficult part about reading bunches of text on the internet, the whole interpretation part.
    you can describe something in a multitude of ways but still its all up to the reader to how they want to hear the tone/attitude/moral of any story.

    but none the less, its still funny.
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  1. machwonder
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    Posted 03/25/2011 6:27 PM

    Yeah TayC, I know what you mean. This is so impersonal, posting and not knowing what kind of person my respond to your post, and if that person understands what it is you are trying to say. Such is the way of the internet. It's a great tool used for many various things, but developing good communication with people isn't one of them. But having said that I believe I got my point across, and  "turdferguson"??lol, did as well. I didn't need all the tech. stuff though. I come here to relax and have fun, I don't want to think too much, lol!! For all you know I could be another Ted Bundy. Now, I could say I'm not, but would you believe me? Well, I'm not but I probably got you wondering, IS HE ???

    Now, was your post a response to my last post, or turdferguson's?  lol!!
  1. TayC
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    Posted 03/25/2011 7:24 PM

    just in general.
    call it a public service.
    ha
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  1. Cosmojc
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    Posted 03/28/2011 6:34 AM

    i see your point...no doubt.
    obviously the copy-right situation is a thin line between right and wrong...it is not legal to watch the NBA online as long as you don´t purchase the league-pass...still there are other options...staying with this topic and with the reference I made in my last message, the spanish B-Ball-League (ACB) offers on their official web-site most of the games live and free...obviously they are on spanish, but still worth watching (by the way, Joel Freeland had a good game past weekend!! 15pt,8reb,2ass,1bl in 25min)...now, with that said; I would like to know if there´s some sort of restrinction to your ability to conect to that page and watch them games...I´ve been tarvaling all over europe and africa and I´ve noticed these mentioned barriers...but not actually with that site.

    enjoy your sportscenter!
    I am a fan of the blazers 'cause they don´t rely on 1 particular player 2 take 25 shots a game 2 b competitive, the guy having THE NIGHT gets the ball..
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