Greatest Trail Blazers: #2 Robinson Vs. #3 Paxson
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  1. DHawes22
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    Posted 08/25/2011 3:12 PM

    Who should advance?
    #2 Cliff Robinson (16)
     59%
    #3 Jim Paxson (11)
     41%


    BURNSIDE REGION
    #2 Cliff Robinson vs. #3 Jim Paxson



    No. 3 Cliff Robinson | Forward | 6-10 | 225 lbs

    Career Stats As A Trail Blazer: 30.8 mpg, 16.2 ppg, 5.2 rpg, 2.1 apg, 1.1 spg, 1.1 bpg  44.6 FG%, 34.9 3PT %, 68 FT %

    One For The Books: Dropping The Bomb - By Wayne Thompson

    The Blazers won with the home run ball – a fitting weapon in the Valley of the Sun where major league baseball competes with major league hoops each March. On this night, the Blazers connected on an astonishing 16 home run balls in 24 attempts.

    Keeping this in mind, Blazers radio announcer Mike Rice warned his audience before the game that if Portland allowed itself to get into a 3-point shootout with Phoenix, the Blazers were doomed. “I’ll tell you what,” Rice said before the game, “if we take over 10 3-point attempts and Phoenix takes over 10, then we’ll lose the game.”

    So much for that. When the Blazers long-ball bombardment was over, Kenny Anderson had cashed in six of nine 3-pointers; Cliff Robinson added five in eight tries, J.R. Rider was three of three and Arvydas Sabonis and Dontonio Wingfield added one each.

    The Blazers’ continued hitting the long ball in the fourth quarter, too. Robinson canned his fourth three at 10:44, Anderson hit his career high sixth 3-pointer at 9:11, and Robinson came back two minutes later with his fifth trey on a feed from Anderson.

    In his game story, The Oregonian’s Paul Buker wrote, “Portland was so hot, so deadly from outside the arc, the America West crowd literally moaned every time Rider, Robinson or Anderson set up for a 3-pointer.”
    Click Here To Continue Reading "One For The Books: Dropping The Bomb"

    Traditionally, power forwards and centers are thought of as players capable only of playing down on the blocks. But not Cliff Robinson. Uncle Cliffy was ahead of his time. At 6-10, he had the height to play in the paint but his 225 lb. frame allowed him to move freely on the perimeter, whether it was a jumper from long-range or a dribble-drive into the middle of the defense. But it wasn't until his sixth year in the league that Robinson truly became a threat from the three-point line when. During the 1995 season, Robinson hoisted more three-pointers (383) than his previous five years in the league combined (204). Now not every team will go 16-24 from three as Portland did against Phoenix, but Cliff's 5-for-8 effort was no aberration. Over the course of his final three years in Rip City, Cliff shot .371, .378 and .349 from long-range while shooting no less than 350 attempts.  Cliff's evolution into a versatile scorer is just one of the reasons why he can be found 15 times in the Top 10 of the Trail Blazers' record books.

    Schonely Speaks:
    “Uncle Cliffy. Great hands, long arms and a vital part of the Blazers while he was here.”

    Photo Gallery: Cliff Robinson Through The Years



    No. 4 Jim Paxson | Guard/Forward | 6-6 | 210 lbs

    Career Stats As A Trail Blazer: 29.3 mpg, 16.0 ppg, 2.3 rpg, 3.2 apg, 1.3 spg, 1.1 bpg  50.3 FG%, 23.0 3PT %, 80.4 FT %

    One For The Books: The All-Star Tandem - By Wayne Thompson

    And if the 20-20 hindsight visionaries needed evidence to show that Portland made the right decision in not adding Jordan to a roster that included Paxson and Drexler, they need to look no further than Portland’s 137-121 victory at San Antonio on Feb. 24, 1985.

    But in this game against the Spurs, Vandeweghe was injured and not with the team, so the Trail Blazers had to rely on their shooting guard tandem of Paxson and Drexler – the same two players who effectively blocked Blazer management from considering taking Michael Jordan in the June, 1984 NBA draft.

    Paxson, meanwhile, resembled a Michael Jordan line at shooting guard. In 43 minutes, he connected on 15 of 25 shots, added five of five from the free throw line, for 35 points. He added 8 rebounds, 4 assists and a steal to his totals, while holding the Spurs’s Hall of Famer George Gervin to a season-low nine points.

    So the evidence was in: The Drexler-Paxson combination was good for 72 points against the Spurs. Their line: 30 of 49 floor shooting; 12 of 13 from the free throw line; 19 rebounds; 13 assists; 4 blocked shots; 5 steals; 5 personal fouls (all by Drexler) and 3 turnovers (all by Paxson).

    “We had been missing Kiki’s scoring,” Drexler said after the game, ‘so I felt someone had to take up the slack. So I started out with a score-first mentality. I guess Pax, with his 35 points, must have been thinking the same thing.”
    Click Here To Continue Reading "One For The Books: The All-Star Tandem"

    The Trail Blazers had a plethora of scorers during the 1980's: Clyde Drexler, Mychal Thompson, Kiki Vandeweghe, and Jim Paxson. Even with all of those great scorers on one team and only one basketball to go around, Paxson still found a way to score and score efficiently, just as he did against San Antonio by shooting 15-25. In fact, Pax  shot .503 from the floor for his entire Trail Blazers career, tenth all-time in Trail Blazers history. And he wasn't shy about letting it fly either, proven by an average of 897 field goal attempts during his nine-year career. For those of you too young to remember Jim, performances such as the one Wayne Thompson relived were a dime a dozen. The guy could could flat-out score!

    Schonely Speaks:
    "With or without the ball, wherever it was on the floor, Paxson was there. If it was loose, he could find it. And when he found it. He would score."

    Photo Gallery: Jim Paxson Through The Years

    The polls will stay open for one week, The player with the most votes will move onto the next round. Who should advance in this matchup and why?

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  1. Kassandra
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    Posted 08/25/2011 9:54 PM

    this is an intriguing matchup, as both players played  several years with the blazers. i don't remember Paxson playing (we traded him four years before i was born!), but he was our leader for a time and i love the Shonz's quote about him. Cliff never really led us, though it seems like we wanted him to in the mid-90s. he was a major player for us and played his role well. tough one. Paxson.

    ~ KMM
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  1. DHawes22
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    Posted 08/26/2011 9:46 AM

    Posted By Kassandra on 08/25/2011 9:54 PM
    this is an intriguing matchup, as both players played  several years with the blazers. i don't remember Paxson playing (we traded him four years before i was born!), but he was our leader for a time and i love the Shonz's quote about him. Cliff never really led us, though it seems like we wanted him to in the mid-90s. he was a major player for us and played his role well. tough one. Paxson.

    ~ KMM

    As far as leading the team, I would argue where exactly did Paxson lead us to? In his eight years, we only got out of the first round twice (83, 85), never advancing any farther. I would admit he was the star on that 83 team but in 85, I believe we had Drexler and Kiki who were more prominent on that squad. Pax was a two-time All-Star while Cliff made it once. While Cliff was never able to get us out of the first round, he led the team in scoring from 93-96 and by the mid-90's most of our talent pool had dried up. Outside of Strickland, there wasn't really another star in the Starting 5 until Vydas arrived in 96. I'd argue that just making the playoffs in the mid-90's showed a lot. With that said, I think both players led this franchise differently but equally.
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  1. mbmurr1
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    Posted 08/26/2011 2:38 PM

    In a close battle I give the edge to Paxson.
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  1. Tobyus Sanchezo
    Tobyus Sanchezo
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    Posted 08/26/2011 5:58 PM

    Jim Paxson was our All-Star.

    Cliff Robinson lost the ball outta bounds on an easy layup in the finals, causing my best friend to cry.
    I am a fan of multiple All-Stars on the Blazers roster this season!
  1. Bull Frog
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    Posted 08/26/2011 6:10 PM

    Cliff was a beast but not would i would call consistent. A great draft choice that turned had a long and rewarding career. Paxson seems like he was a pure point guard. Too hard to judge here. interesting part about the duo blocking Blazer mangement from drafting MJ. Not a good decision. What was even weirder was the possibility of there ever being a comparable shooting guard to Drexler in the same era. Flat out ridiculous. Undecided
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  1. ClydeFrog
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    Posted 08/27/2011 10:16 PM

    Uncle Cliffy. People really need to let go the 3-on-1 fast break fumble against LA in Game 6. For one, Kersey (?) should have finished the break with a dunk. His pass surely caught Cliff off guard. Two, Porter had a WIDE OPEN shot at the buzzer to win it and missed. And Three, we should have never been in that position. We blew Game 1, up 12 heading into the 4th quarter and choked it away. Bottom line: One mishap doesn't lose an entire series nor should it ruin Cliff's reputation. 

    Paxson was nice but he seemed like a scorer, nothing else. Give me the 6-10 big capable of playing and defending all three front court positions any day of the week.
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  1. Kassandra
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    Posted 08/28/2011 12:47 AM

    Posted By DHawes22 on 08/26/2011 9:46 AM
    Posted By Kassandra on 08/25/2011 9:54 PM
    this is an intriguing matchup, as both players played  several years with the blazers. i don't remember Paxson playing (we traded him four years before i was born!), but he was our leader for a time and i love the Shonz's quote about him. Cliff never really led us, though it seems like we wanted him to in the mid-90s. he was a major player for us and played his role well. tough one. Paxson.

    ~ KMM

    As far as leading the team, I would argue where exactly did Paxson lead us to? In his eight years, we only got out of the first round twice (83, 85), never advancing any farther. I would admit he was the star on that 83 team but in 85, I believe we had Drexler and Kiki who were more prominent on that squad. Pax was a two-time All-Star while Cliff made it once. While Cliff was never able to get us out of the first round, he led the team in scoring from 93-96 and by the mid-90's most of our talent pool had dried up. Outside of Strickland, there wasn't really another star in the Starting 5 until Vydas arrived in 96. I'd argue that just making the playoffs in the mid-90's showed a lot. With that said, I think both players led this franchise differently but equally.

    yeah Dustin, i understand what you're saying about them each leading the team. i think when reviewing Paxson's stats, i always come back to the question "had we not drafted Drexler, where would Paxson's career with the blazers have gone.he averaged 21.5 points over the two-season period pre-Drexler/Drexler as a rookie. Paxson's playing time went down and he never really made much of a further impact with the team. all that being said, i still stick with him over Robinson.

    ~ KMM
    I am a fan of my team fighting to win each and every game.
  1. BlazerBear
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    Posted 08/29/2011 4:32 PM

    Cliff. He simply had more talent and was an overall better basketball player. Paxson probably the better scorer but Cliff could defend and rebound much better.
    I am a fan of J.J. Hickson Making SportsCenter's Top 10 Plays On A Nightly Basis!
  1. DHawes22
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    Posted 09/01/2011 1:03 PM

    Cliff moves on!
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