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  1. Herr
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    Posted 07/01/2012 9:43 AM

      Time for me to just be honest with this team.


      In my opinion, a lot of Blazer fans think this team is much better than it is, and that their players are better than they are.

      Here's what I'm sick of...

    Chad Buchanan should never have been GM.  He failed miserably.  He traded our best player and most inconsistent player in Dre for an overweight dude that had trouble keeping the ball inbounds or in the Blazers possession in the closing minutes.  He had maybe 4 good games, where Dre was there every night and was the reason we were even in the playoffs in 2010.  He then signed Crawford, who was equally as terrible and again, had maybe 4 good games.  It all resulted in the team going downhill, and he traded 2 players that actually tried.  The only good thing we got out of it was the 6th pick, but I wonder if that's more Buchanan or the Nets just being stupid like they normally are.  I bet Denver is laughing at us while they nearly pulled off the upset against the team everyone hates because they got Dre for next to nothing.  You should never go from an underdog to a team tanking games on purpose to get draft picks.  Even with Roy injured there is a hardly an excuse for that.

      Hiring him would have been a huge mistake.  Olshey has done much better.

      Now, I like what our coach has done, but let's get real.  Dude has NO experience as a coach besides purposely tanking games.  The only decent win last season when he was coach was when we beat Chicago in his debut.  Sure, he did some things that Nate refused to do despite us begging for the other 10 guys on our team to get playing time, but he has no experience, and we have a team that's preparing for the future.  We need an actual coach to get this team into shape and ready to succeed.  Caleb is quite simply not that guy.  And honestly, we need to get rid of all Nate influence.  Nate was a bad coach, and was often over-credited for this team's success despite the injuries.  All he did was overplay his starters and was forced to give guys opportunities that were dying to play and prove.


      Next up is Wesley and Batum.  If we're to keep Batum, after Minny's offer, we'd be paying $84 million for them both alone.  That's not worth it.  Batum is NOT worth $50m and Wessy isn't worth is $32.  I'm sick and tired of heariing every damn season "oh this is the year Batum steps out of his shell".  Are they lying or is Batum just stepping out of a shell and directly into a new one?  He's inconsistent as hell, and we can't be paying $50m for potential, we need to pay that for actual progress.  Greg Oden had more potential than Batum, and we all know how that went.  Wesley meanwhile... we're paying $34 for a mediocre backup SG.   Does he have room to improve?  Maybe, but I don't see him having the potential we need, at least for what he's making.

      Heck, even Aldridge's season was disappointing last season.  I just don't get it with this team.  Are they in it for the money or in it for the Championship?


    Sorry for the "hate".  Those that know me know I'm a true Blazer fan, but after that terrible, pitiful, embarrassing, crappy season where I was actually debating to watch games, it's time to get real.  This team is far off and I'm kind of getting annoyed at seeing Blazer fans wanting to keep players/managment because they think they are a nice guy or because they don't know much and are just hearing word of mouth.  You either want a championship or you want players you like.  I'd rather go for the championship, because seeing mediocreness is getting a tad bit boring, and I'm finding it easy to forget players when better ones come in.

    Just being honest.  Go Blazers.
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  1. Herr
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    Posted 07/01/2012 9:43 AM

    Sorry, I meant to say Dre was the most consistent, not inconsistent.
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  1. Tiki Kienle
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    Posted 07/01/2012 10:11 AM

    Your first point about the bad players and GM. Chad did his job efficiently. He brought in youth, energy and built a team around fast paced basketball. That was the entire team composition. Miller only has another 3 years of quality gameplay max, if that. Also, there was speculation (almost fact) that Felton and Wallace were throwing games on purpose to get Nate fired. There was a lot of internal turmoil within the locker room and it showed. Paul knew it, Nate knew it, and the situation was delt with by bringing out the broom. We got rid of Felton and Wallace. Batum is worst 50mil. Do you know how many teams salivate at the thought of us releasing Batum from our grasp? He has length, good health and potential. What more do you want? Better production? How old is he? 23? Even if he blossoms at age 27, he has 10 quality years in the NBA. I'll get a lot of hate for this statement I'm about to make, but Batum will be an allstar and a floor leader. If he keeps improving, he'll be a hall of famer (not at this rate, though). Look at Batums growth for a second. He has been in the league for 4 years and throughout those 4 years, he's increase his PPG, increased his blocks per game (one of the most lethal behind blockers on a fast break in the league). His rebounds have increased every year, as well. The guy is a prospect. If you think he's not worth 50 mil, please stop posting. Remember O'Neal? Too many players we have traded only to become all stars. Batum is one of them. Matthews probably isn't worth 32 mil, but he has a great attitude and is a yes man. Remember the jail blazers era? Wes wants to be a leader and is a hard worker. Aldridge did not have a disappointing season last year. Unless you consider an allstar (should be 2 years in a row) a disappointment. Considering the players around him and the negative atmosphere of the team, I'd say he made a very negative situation and came out on top. Give Aldridge a pick and roll player (Lillard) and watch him become the next Amar'e (without the stupidity and anger issues). Regardless of how you view last season, one thing is for certain, the Blazers are rebuilding and Olshey knows exactly what he's doing. We're in good hands. I just hope Canales can lead a team. But with the respect he's earned in the locker room, I'm not concerned.
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  1. Tiki Kienle
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    Posted 07/01/2012 10:11 AM

    Cool, my iPad ignored my paragraphs.
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  1. commontongue
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    Posted 07/01/2012 10:42 AM

    We may not be where we want to be,but thank God we arent where we were. Im not so much concerned with yesterday as i am tomorrow. Theres only one thing i want, that this team desperately needs, a Leader. A clear vocal leader that checks guys. Calls them on their blown assignments, and has everyone on the same page. Historically, thats always been a point guards job. Unless you have Garnett on your squad. We have to hang our hats on lockdown defense. Protect the paint.
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  1. benh7777
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    Posted 07/01/2012 1:07 PM

    I'm with Herr on Batum. He plain and simply is NOT developing into what we thought he would. Yes he's gradually improving his stats and is a good player, but the money we will have to match is way too much, let him go.

    As far as Olshey goes, he hasn't done squat yet. The only thing "he" has done is draft a guy, Lillard, that Paul Allen was determined to get even before Olshey was hired. Will he stand up to Allen and tell him this is the way it is going to be? I don't know, we will see what happens with free agency signings. Will we sign a go to player or just keep signing so so mediocre players to plug holes?

    I think Olshey already failed his first test, when Barnes was there at 6 he should have, like any real GM, say sorry Paul but we will draft the potential superstar instead of drafting a need, and then go find us a PG through free agency or trade.
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  1. The Unholy
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    Posted 07/01/2012 2:24 PM

    @tiki sounds like you're sugar coating it a bit.
    chad didnt know wtf he was doing, hence nolan smith over kenneth faried and you cant call that bad luck because alot of people thought faried would be a beast.
    then there was felton, i have no idea how to explain that. his stats were good and it seemed like a good idea at the time. nobody could've predicted that felton would have ate his twin brother and show up to training camp all lumpy and misshapen.

    and i like kaleb too, but if this is not a rebuild olshey wants to be taken seriously he needs to hire a coach with experience. i like how aggressive olshey has been going after hibbert. even if the pacers match, it says that the team is serious about winning. batum is a good player but to give him 12 mil a year based on potenial is insane. if it were actual production i'd feel differently. there's ability but it just isn't happening, they should've traded nic when they had the chance. you can get the same production at the same position for a cheaper price so i think it might be time to part ways.
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  1. barnettfan
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    Posted 07/01/2012 2:40 PM

    @Tiki I will disagree with you on Batum reason is this. Every player the Blazers have right now with the exception of Lamarcus, and I hope he improves too, we are developing (assuming Felton and Crawford are gone). With the 50 mill price tag we can get a for sure stud for mostly every game and not a maybe stud who is developing well into 27 especially if he does not want to be there. I say let Minnesota have him and he can be the next Dennis Rodman and disappear for a couple of quarters when he dont feel like playing or is mad at the coach. Players like Batum can get you to the play offs but they can also lose you the championship. This is also just my opinion on his inconsistancy.
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  1. mbmurr1
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    Posted 07/01/2012 4:10 PM

    I see the point of LA not playing to his potential "BEAST". It's the lack of shot blocking and rebounding. BUT in his defense, he had a lot of trouble makers around him who wanted Nate gone and it is nearly impossible to win with your teammates tanking games, not playing defense, and turning the ball over on purpose......    As far as Batum is concerned, I think he has a mountain of potential but unless he is consistently playing up to that potential we cannot pay him top dollar. I like Nick but not at a max deal now "perhaps he will be worth it in four years"......... Don't be surprised when the Pacers don't match and we get Hibbert. In the mean time we need to make offers to Illasova and Hickson @ around 5 million each for 4 and 5 years respectively. If we don't get Hibbert then we should look to Mcgee and if not him then sign Thabeet to 3 years 3 million per, and Przybilla 1year 1 million. We still need a backup @ pg like maybe D. West or ?           
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  1. mbmurr1
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    Posted 07/01/2012 4:13 PM

    Don't even think of offering Asik a max contract. If we are not going to play Leonard why did we not move up and get a top Sg from the draft?
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  1. The Unholy
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    Posted 07/01/2012 4:47 PM

    the team can go over the cap to sign hickson but there would be a hold on the cap so that is why he hasnt gotten an offer yet. plus i hear asik and the rockets have reached an agreement (it is up to bulls to match) so it seems more likely pacers will match blazers offer.
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  1. cmeese47
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    Posted 07/01/2012 8:29 PM

    I get the frustration I certainly do and agree with a lot of what was written. 

    Said for a long time that right now Batum is not worth 10 million a season to a NBA title contender but it is clear his potential is worth more than that for a team trying to make the playoffs. 
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  1. 08Ceaser81
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    Posted 07/01/2012 9:47 PM

    Hey, I agree with commontounge in that I just want to look to the future and not worry about that aweful year. I think its better to just bottle it up, put it deep down inside and release it in slow shudders like Mr. Burns..
    Nic Batum and his agent are making out like bandits, but I still think we would be better off keeping him. He is going to get better. He's young and has serious developable talent.

    @benh7777  
    I thought that way too, at first.  All that talk in the forums about choosing the best available made sense to me. None of the draftees are a sure thing save for A. Davis at this point though. I'm noticing that the Blazers organization is very much like a family and P. Allen is the Big Pappa! One nice thing about Allen is that he has a vision for the team. The downside is just like you mentioned that he may have had his heart set on Lillard and that could have been a problem with Gm's of the past but I think Olshley understands Allen better so far more than any of the other GM's have. Maybe what we needed was a GM who could mesh well with the Blazer family and translate Allens vision into a reality. Maybe the era of GM's acting like they know better than Big Pappa Allen is at an end.
    Now to entertain the Barnes pick up idea. We could have signed Dragic.. Max deal him out if that is what it takes. Then we would have a proven scoring PG who still has a high cieling. I don't want to speculate on any other pg's because I just wanted Dragic that bad (I really think that any team he's on is going to be elevated). The team I envisioned going into draft and free agency looked like this.

    G. Dragic/J Flynn (combo N. Smith)
    W. Mathews/E. Williams (Eliot needs to break out here)
    N. Batum/H. Barnes (Loads of potential here)
    L. Aldride/JJ. Hickson (LA's cool Jazz and JJ's Bebop)
    R. Hibbert/M. Leonard/J. Pryzbilla (I was rooting for Leonard over Zeller/Drummond)

    Reserves: Whoever we drafted in 2nd round and maybe hold onto Thabeet if the price is right because he would be a great training partner for our bigs and who know he may get better... lol

    At the end of the day there is no guarantee that Dragic or Hibbert would sign anyways.. One can dream.
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  1. jacklawrence
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    Posted 07/01/2012 10:28 PM

    Completely agree with your comments on Wes and Batum. What they are paid, or could be paid, doesn't match the offense they give us. We need a number one scoring option. As good as LMA is, he should be our number two. We cannot be paying Batum the 45-50 mil the wolves want him for. That kind of money should be getting you a number one guy and after 4 years Batum is putting up a mildly decent 14 ppg. Granted, I personally think Wes'  disappointing numbers (41% from the field) can directly be attributed to Felton's poor play, but the dude's not even a third option and realistically should be coming off the bench. Would love to see us trade Wes or do a sign and trade for a reliable scoring option. Maybe Gay is the gay. Don't know. But as long as LMA is our go-to, number one guy we are stuck as an 8 or 7th seed at best.

    Can't believe you called aldridge's last season disappointing, probably one of the dumber things I've read on this website. I mean I guess if you call  putting up 22/9 at 51%, including increasing nearly every stat category, disappointing. Have some basis for your claims.
     
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  1. jacklawrence
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    Posted 07/01/2012 10:33 PM

    But for the most part I agree with what you wrote and I'm equally as frustrated as you are.
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  1. cmeese47
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    Posted 07/02/2012 10:12 AM

    I am just disgusted by the fact we had a strike/ lockout over player contracts and now we have every single free agent making a lot more money than they should. 

    Hibbert 12 million dollar player gets a max deal
    Batum 9 million dollar player gets 12.5 million
    Wallace 7 million dollar player gets 10 million
    Asik 6 million dollar player gets 8.3 million
    Nash 10 million dollar player gets 12 million
    and many many more it is gross 
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  1. FoulWeatherFan
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    Posted 07/02/2012 10:33 AM

    Posted By Herr on 07/01/2012 9:43 AM
      Time for me to just be honest with this team.


      In my opinion, a lot of Blazer fans think this team is much better than it is, and that their players are better than they are.

      Here's what I'm sick of...

    Chad Buchanan should never have been GM.  He failed miserably.  He traded our best player and most inconsistent player in Dre for an overweight dude that had trouble keeping the ball inbounds or in the Blazers possession in the closing minutes.  He had maybe 4 good games, where Dre was there every night and was the reason we were even in the playoffs in 2010.  He then signed Crawford, who was equally as terrible and again, had maybe 4 good games.  It all resulted in the team going downhill, and he traded 2 players that actually tried.  The only good thing we got out of it was the 6th pick, but I wonder if that's more Buchanan or the Nets just being stupid like they normally are.  I bet Denver is laughing at us while they nearly pulled off the upset against the team everyone hates because they got Dre for next to nothing.  You should never go from an underdog to a team tanking games on purpose to get draft picks.  Even with Roy injured there is a hardly an excuse for that.

      Hiring him would have been a huge mistake.  Olshey has done much better.

      Now, I like what our coach has done, but let's get real.  Dude has NO experience as a coach besides purposely tanking games.  The only decent win last season when he was coach was when we beat Chicago in his debut.  Sure, he did some things that Nate refused to do despite us begging for the other 10 guys on our team to get playing time, but he has no experience, and we have a team that's preparing for the future.  We need an actual coach to get this team into shape and ready to succeed.  Caleb is quite simply not that guy.  And honestly, we need to get rid of all Nate influence.  Nate was a bad coach, and was often over-credited for this team's success despite the injuries.  All he did was overplay his starters and was forced to give guys opportunities that were dying to play and prove.


      Next up is Wesley and Batum.  If we're to keep Batum, after Minny's offer, we'd be paying $84 million for them both alone.  That's not worth it.  Batum is NOT worth $50m and Wessy isn't worth is $32.  I'm sick and tired of heariing every damn season "oh this is the year Batum steps out of his shell".  Are they lying or is Batum just stepping out of a shell and directly into a new one?  He's inconsistent as hell, and we can't be paying $50m for potential, we need to pay that for actual progress.  Greg Oden had more potential than Batum, and we all know how that went.  Wesley meanwhile... we're paying $34 for a mediocre backup SG.   Does he have room to improve?  Maybe, but I don't see him having the potential we need, at least for what he's making.

      Heck, even Aldridge's season was disappointing last season.  I just don't get it with this team.  Are they in it for the money or in it for the Championship?


    Sorry for the "hate".  Those that know me know I'm a true Blazer fan, but after that terrible, pitiful, embarrassing, crappy season where I was actually debating to watch games, it's time to get real.  This team is far off and I'm kind of getting annoyed at seeing Blazer fans wanting to keep players/managment because they think they are a nice guy or because they don't know much and are just hearing word of mouth.  You either want a championship or you want players you like.  I'd rather go for the championship, because seeing mediocreness is getting a tad bit boring, and I'm finding it easy to forget players when better ones come in.

    Just being honest.  Go Blazers.

    It's this kind of thinking that got us the jailblazer teams. Yes, talent should always be the #1 thing you look at when evaluating a player. However it doesn't just stop there. Character and situation also factor in. If you just want to throw money at every big name that walks by root for the Knicks. Yes, Wesley and Nic if we sign him would be overpaid. I just read an article that broke down wins and losses and determined the most overpaid players in the league. #1......... Kobe Bryant. They are all overpaid, even the best of them. Besides, there is a reason why Nic is headed for a big payday, everyone knows he is going to be a really good player. He will be making close to the same money as Ben Gordon, Corey Maggette, David Lee, Kevin Martin, Shawn Marion, John Salmons, or Tyson Candler. Do you really think all of those players deserve 9-14mil a year? Do you think Batum is on their level? People always say that so and so isn't worth it, but the market dictates your value and this year the demand for Batum has gone through the roof. I think we can can re-sign him after signing free agents then do it. If we cant and it cripples our finances then let him go, maybe get something back in a sign and trade.
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  1. D_pickett
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    Posted 07/02/2012 10:56 AM

    If we didn't want to overpay Batum, we should've extended his contract BEFORE he was a free agent.

    12 million for (most likely) your 2nd offensive option is not unreasonable. It seems like it to those of us who can't even dream of making 6 figures. However, and thanks for doing the research FoulWeatherFan, look at the above list of players making similar money. Are any of them superstars? Are any of them #1 options? Only a couple have been all stars. I would argue that, pitted against that list, Batum is right about middle of the road. I'd certainly rather have him than John Salmons, Shawn Marion, or Ben Gordon. Now when you think about his age, it becomes clear that he will still improve, and probably be the best player on that list. If that's with another team like Minnesota, my head will explode. Doesn't LaMarcus make about 21 mill a year, and wasn't Brandon making about 25 mill? I don't know for sure, but I thought so. If you're telling me Batum isn't worth 9 mill less than LaMarcus, you're out of your mind.

    Last thing. WE weren't the ones that offered him so much money. Minnesota did that, and it shows you that Nic's value is higher than some scrutinizing Blazer fans think.
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  1. cmeese47
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    Posted 07/02/2012 11:00 AM

    D-Pickett the reason we only had 66 games this year and the amnesty clause is because people like them are making that much money and the cycle is just continuing.
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  1. D_pickett
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    Posted 07/02/2012 11:17 AM

    I like to blame the lockout solely on LeBron. Lol... mostly because I can say whatever I want.

    The new CBA was put in place to get control of that. It's reasonable to say that, if it's allowed, it's going to happen. The max deals might not be as big as they were under the last CBA, but people are still going to get max deals. Of course, there are also luxury tax penalties that dissuade GMs from handing out max deals left and right. Headed for another lockout when this CBA expires? We'll see.
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  1. cmeese47
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    Posted 07/02/2012 11:43 AM

    I certainly think it will be considered if things do not change.
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  1. jacklawrence
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    Posted 07/02/2012 12:02 PM

    LaMarcus is making about 15 mil a year dude.
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  1. Avgjoe28
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    Posted 07/02/2012 1:00 PM

    WOW to most of this buy the way. I just Say WOW we are never truly happy i guess seems like ever off season this crap come up well let me tell you Ill take it over where we used to be. So we had a bad season considering what happen its understandable. I agreed with picking up felton seeing what he did before he got here his numbers were much like dre's but at a far younger age so its understandable. Crawford the same he put up monster games before he came here. Camby and wallace were tired and every one could see the effort had faded they needed a change and who wouldnt will all the changes and difficulties that started last season.

    And i may eat my words but i would almost bet my life on the fact that Lillard will be more productive than Barns. Barns has potential to be great but has already showed lack of motor in college thus the reason his stock fell. And herr i dont normally call you out and not my direct intention to do so this time as well but i have to respectfully disagree with you on saying nate was a horrible coach. He was a good coach best we have had since Rick A. He took a broken squad year after year and got greatness from them with the exception of last year. I agree it was time for a change but give the guy some credit was he a champion ship coach probably not did he play rookies not that often but he was part of making the team respect the city it played in so for that alone he should be thanked. just saying. With that being said i do know u are a true fan and u are an emotional fan so i applaud u for your beliefs any how.

    I just thank god we are not looking at a jail blazer squad there are 30 teams in the NBA look at how many other teams want to win just as bad as we do. and look at how many been lottery teams we have been luck as of late i would say.
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  1. cmeese47
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    Posted 07/02/2012 2:05 PM

    I have Mixed feelings about Nate. Nate was a good coach; however, he did somethings absolutely horribly. 
    The worst was playing time management, time after time after time Nate would play starters around 40 minutes when we were winning games by 15 or more. This led to tremendous wear and tear on our players and is likely the main reason we had so many injuries in the first place. Two he was horrible at making in game adjustments. Nate relied heavily on information he received from synergy sports and would rarely deviate from his game plans even when they were not working. Roy and Aldridge aside Nate's management of young players was terrible. 

    Those were significant stumbling blocks for this franchise and that is why he deserved to be fired.
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  1. Avgjoe28
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    Posted 07/02/2012 2:36 PM

    I agree with this and these things were nate down fall i do think it was time to move on but i dont think he was a bad coach just the system moved on with out him. It was time to readjust im not sure our current situation is the answer but it was time for a change. There is just some credit Nate still deserves for the franchises success in the year before this. Im not talking about the winning success im talking about the pride success we have something to be proud of agian champion ship or not. We can can be proud of the individuals on the team something we could not have done 7 years ago
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  1. barnettfan
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    Posted 07/02/2012 7:28 PM

    I can see why Herr is so mad about us tanking the season. I fully understand why we did although due to the fact that in part of the massive injuries we had sustained and the lockout with no training camp and the fact that Nate drove the starters into the dirt kinda makes it allright in my book. We got a look at some people who needed looking at and benched some people we did not. I do not believe that the whole reason was to get a lottery pick I think it was more an evaluation on the people we had the lottery was just secondary and remember our #6 pick came solely on how brooklyn did. 
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  1. cmeese47
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    Posted 07/02/2012 9:30 PM

    At we are not the Bobcats 
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  1. Avgjoe28
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    Posted 07/02/2012 9:55 PM

    I dont think it was as much tanking as much as getting rid of the things we needed to get rid of. and then when lamarcus went down we didnt have much choice but to see what the rest of the team can do,
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  1. cmeese47
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    Posted 07/03/2012 11:57 AM

    Should have sold Felton, Crawford, and Kurt Thomas at last years trade deadline. But got to have fan friendly verbiage so in comes retooling and we get nothing for our mistakes.
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  1. Herr
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    Posted 07/05/2012 9:21 AM

    The main purpose of this thread is for people to get over the non-sense that we should have inexperienced people running the show.  Olshey has done a lot more than Chad could do (he's offering contracts to players we actually need on this team, and doing it well).  I like Caleb.  I thought he did a good job, but cmon... do we want him coaching a team that... assuming we resign Batum and Hibbert... which I think the Blazers will do... are expected to make the playoffs?

    I don't want a jailblazer era.  I simply stopped watching during that time.  But those people were some really bad people.  I doubt some of the guys we're looking at and that I personally think we should look at would do the things the jailblazers did.
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  1. riverman
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    Posted 07/05/2012 6:58 PM

    I think alot of us forget that the CBA changed the game this season. There's just not the money there used to be. Nic is expendable, replaceable. Olshey said something I really liked. He wants players that want to be here long term. That's the formula for building chemistry. Wes I'd like to keep around because he's that guy. Our Bruce Bowen-Shane Battier glue guy who hits the 3 pt shot. What the team lacked across the board last season was passing, finishing fast breaks and making frickin layups. I think we need a coach that develops young players and plays 12 man rotations. Chad did a good job considering how quickly he had to make decisions on the fly. It's all about the future now. Looking backwards is sort of a waste of time with this team. If we get Hibbert, we'll have a spark from day one. I trust the direction Olshey is headed and welcome the change. It's a new season coming up and OKC and Miami have set the bar. We missed the playoffs for the first time in a long time, that's our bar now. Get passed the first round. Go Blazers!

    I am a fan of A team that plays like Tower of Power on a big stage on a good night
  1. D Licious
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    Posted 07/06/2012 10:41 AM

    Batum will playing for Portland get over it haters
    I am a fan of Billy Ray Bates
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    Posted 07/07/2012 8:36 PM

    I have to agree with you on everything you said especially on nate !!!  we need a coach with a real offensive philoshy!!!  can anyone on our team set a pick? I love the Blazers so dont think I am a hater!  I really like what Neil has done so far I just hope that  the plan works out !!!  GO BLAZERS
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