Batum - I hope this is not a trend
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  1. BlazerManiac
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    Posted 11/07/2013 10:50 AM

     

    Take away his Triple Double and what do you have.  I hope he turns it around soon.

    Maybe someone should ask him like Tony Parker did with France to be to go to guy.

     

     

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  1. cmeese47
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    Posted 11/07/2013 2:57 PM

    He could certainly afford to take some more shots.

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  1. BlazerManiac
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    Posted 11/07/2013 3:38 PM

     

     

    I just had to swing by and make an evaluation.  He again is having problems holding onto the all.

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  1. Cailin Pietersen
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    Posted 11/07/2013 9:26 PM

    If he keeps up his effort on the offensive boards it will certainly convince me that his overall effort and hunger to improve is there this year. Now he needs to get to the free throw line a bit more. That will open things up for his jump shot. I think Nic, a lot like Lebron in the past, loses faith in his shot if it isn't falling immediately. But if the shot isn't going down, he must do other things in the offense. The numbers don't always tell the whole story, but they certainly point to a growing trend that Nic has yet to put it all together at once. One game it's his passing, another it's his shooting. I'd love for him to give a great shooting night and a great rebounding effort too. It doesn't need to be a triple double. A 15/5/5 night at. 55% clip would suffice. Nic has the ability, he just needs the motivation and that should come from within himself. He shouldn't need to be "asked" to do it

    I am a fan of shouting Batuuuuuum-Shaka-Laka whenever Nic hits a 3!!!!!
  1. Siccolo
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    Posted 11/07/2013 9:42 PM

    55% !!  Thats crazy lol


    Batum is doing well this year. He needs to play defense, rebound, make good passes, and score open 3s. His offense is best on the break or when he catch and shoot 3s. I don't know where we expect him to score from. Since Wes is playing great on offense, Batums offense has not been an issue. I don't think we NEED Batum to score 20 a game. Batum is a great complimentary, glue guy. I don't want him to force any dumb shots. Batum just needs to be involved and stay aggressive the WHOLE game. And being aggressive docent mean take shots.


    13 points 6 rebounds 6 assistis 1 block 1 steal 45% Fg 40% 3pt would be very nice. 

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  1. Cailin Pietersen
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    Posted 11/08/2013 12:06 AM

    Haha! Ok the 55% clip is admittedly quite high. Let me revise that. If he takes 10 shots a game and converts 4-5 of them and makes 38% from deep then it will be successful. That's 3 made 3s for every 8 he attempts. In addition if he gets those 5 boards and even 4 assists then it will be great. Lillard will lead us in assists and a balance between Mo, Wes, Nic and McCollum for the majority of the teams assists will be good. We had 29 assists against the spurs. That's great ball movement and that almost guarantees a win. Like I say, Nic doesn't need to get a triple double every night, he just needs to give a balanced performance in all areas. Good performances in shooting, rebounding and his defense will be great. If he manages 4-5 assists a night, then that's a bonus I would jump at.

    I am a fan of shouting Batuuuuuum-Shaka-Laka whenever Nic hits a 3!!!!!
  1. Blazer Fanatic
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    Posted 11/08/2013 10:19 AM

    I thought  you said you were not gonna post here any more, but that's awesome you came back to show your support for Batum.  I did not see that coming.  Am I correct we should ignore a triple double in a 4 game sample size to draw a conclusion about players?  Not like it was the NBA's first triple double of the season or anything.

     

    What exactly was the "evaluation" from the OP?  Posting game stats?

     

    I saw this guy once at the mall that was shouting in the middle of the food court, and I had no idea what he shouting about. But it was hilarious.  I don't know why I just thought of that.  mmmm...

     

     

    6pts 8.3 rebounds 2.3 turnovers .344 FG%  .500 FT%

    This is an evaluation:

    Those are simply terrible stats for a starting PF in the D-league, let alone the Denver Nuggets.  What a horribly redundant player that solves nothing for that team.  A Manimal should clearly start over that guy.  Turble. 

     

  1. riverman
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    Posted 11/08/2013 11:00 AM

    Nic is having a great start to the season on many levels. Against the Rockets, we could've won that game if we made a higher percentage of free throws and layups. We were horrible at the line and in the paint trying to score. Rolo is going to get into foul trouble every few games the way he plays and he's not going to get calls like the big name guys. Against the Rockets we really missed having Joel Freeland to spell him. I didn't care for Stott's rotations off the bench against the Rockets. TRob should have gotten some of Leonard's minutes. This is a pretty new roster we have and you can see the adjustments from old habits with the vets. If LaMarcus, Damian and Mo are shooting cold jumpers, we're not going to beat contenders anytime soon. We stand at 500. Sweeping the Kings will help.
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  1. cmeese47
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    Posted 11/08/2013 12:16 PM

    Fanatic you forgot JJ's 1.5 blocks per game. Otherwise I do not think anyone can argue JJ's start outside of rebounds and blocks has been terrible.

     

    Then again so is 4.3 pts 4.8 reb .364 fg% .25ft% for a starting center. Lopez's 2.3 blocks per and .5 TO are the only things he is doing marginally well right now.

     

    Batum has been up and down, Mo has been up and down and Lopez pretty much terrible, which has led to a 2-2 record. It is too early to make definite predictions about the team but to say I hoped for more from Batum, Lopez and the bench would be an understatement.

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  1. Blazer Fanatic
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    Posted 11/08/2013 10:18 PM

    5-10 shooting, 3-6 from three

    14/7/8 – Batum’s points/reb/ast    TWO turnovers!!!  Time to make a new "trade Batum" thread I suppose.

     

     

  1. Siccolo
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    Posted 11/08/2013 10:24 PM

    JJ has never averaged more than a block in a season. He had 4 blocks one game so his stats look good for now. I guarantee he wont average a block when the season ends. 

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  1. Blazer Fanatic
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    Posted 11/08/2013 10:42 PM

    That was TOO easy Siccolo. lol

    We have to ignore Batum's triple double, AND chalk up JJ as a shot blocker because he had 4 in one game.  Can't argue with people that want to argue. ; )

  1. Blazer Fanatic
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    Posted 11/08/2013 10:51 PM

    In opposite related news to the thread's premise:

    Batum sits comfortably at #3 in made 3-pointers, in Blazer history.

  1. Blazer Fanatic
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    Posted 11/08/2013 10:51 PM

    In opposite related news to the thread's premise:

    Batum sits comfortably at #3 in made 3-pointers, in Blazer history.

  1. Siccolo
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    Posted 11/08/2013 10:51 PM

    hahahah ;))

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  1. riverman
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    Posted 11/08/2013 11:32 PM

    Wes passed Drexler for made 3's tonight against Sac, but somewhere I read Nico is the 3rd fastest NBA player in the league..That's impressive as well as Nic's #3! Good to see people posting here again!
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  1. Blazer Fanatic
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    Posted 11/09/2013 12:21 AM

    JJ Hickson no longer a starter or Denver.   4 pts 4 defensive rebounds 0 blocks 2 turnovers.  Dare I say Joel Freeland is playing better than Hickson?  I dare.
  1. Cailin Pietersen
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    Posted 11/09/2013 1:28 AM

    I'm happy to report that Nic put it together tonight. Talk about a wish come true!!! 14 points with 7 boards and 8 assists are numbers I can happily live with every night!! Throw in his 50% shooting and the fact that is the NBAs 3rd fastest player right now and I am an ecstatic man and Blazer fan!! Nic is rocking Rip City and making Dame and LA even better players. Looks like our Core 4 is starting to put it together. 


    Oh and the entire team, including Freeland and Robinson had a positive +/- tonight. Can't even remember when last that happened. Great effort from everybody. Defense was sharper and so was the rebounding (which was near non existent on Wednesday night). A win in Sac tonight will be the perfect tonic before playing Detroit and Phoenix. Don't think it's too out there to imagine a little win streak coming!

    I am a fan of shouting Batuuuuuum-Shaka-Laka whenever Nic hits a 3!!!!!
  1. Siccolo
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    Posted 11/09/2013 9:35 AM

    Shouts out to Wes Matthews! He has been having a great season so far. Really picking it up on the scoring duties, and his rebounding has improved GREATLY. 

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  1. Blazer Fanatic
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    Posted 11/10/2013 6:17 AM

    Batum thru 5 games:

    Leads the Blazers in REBOUNDING (7.4 RPG)

    Leads the Blazers in ASSISTS (5.8 APG)

    13 PPG on .444 FG%  and .406 3P%

     

    I hope this isn't a trend.  Just had to swinging by and make an evaluation... derp derp.

  1. commontongue
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    Posted 11/10/2013 8:56 AM

    Winning the Euro Championship has done wonders for Batums confidence. He looks like he belongs out there. He's playing with a different swagger.
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  1. Siccolo
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    Posted 11/10/2013 9:42 AM

    Batum has been killing it this season

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  1. cmeese47
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    Posted 11/10/2013 9:50 AM

    I want Batum to take a few more shots but I can live with his current production. Then again last year he started gangbusters as well and did not finish that way. 4-2 is pretty much where I expected the team to be at this point. Not exact path had them losing to Denver and beating Phoenix but it is what it is. 


    We have some easy games coming up anything less than 3-1 in the next 4 would be a step back. 


    Things go good when 1/3rd your games are against the Kings. 

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  1. Siccolo
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    Posted 11/10/2013 11:48 AM

    Easy upcoming schedule hopefully when the great teams start coming in we can continue winning 

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  1. Blazer Fanatic
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    Posted 11/10/2013 2:16 PM

    Batum IS Batman.  He will be the enemy if that's what the city needs him to be.  LOL
  1. stacksfan2005
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    Posted 11/10/2013 11:54 PM

    Posted By Blazer Fanatic on 11/10/2013 2:16 PM
    Batum IS Batman.  He will be the enemy if that's what the city needs him to be.  LOL

    i lol'd



    batum is killing it this season, love the rebounds, he's developing a post but it still needs work.

  1. BDawg
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    Posted 11/11/2013 8:14 AM


    Posted By Blazer Fanatic on 11/10/2013 2:16 PM
    Batum IS Batman. He will be the enemy if that's what the city needs him to be. LOL


    While I too am satisfied with Batum's current production...we ARE just talking about CURRENT with a player known for inconsistency. This thread will have a thousand+ posts if the man remains inconsistent and both Nics fans and detractors continue posting after each contest.

    I personally think of Nic as Catwoman or maybe Alfred, as the roles of Batman and Robin on this roster are clearly taken by Lillard and LMA. Nic has a ways to go to overtake either in terms of value to the team, though he currently has that third spot locked down.

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  1. BDawg
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    Posted 11/11/2013 8:57 AM

    Wonder if Lillard will complain about Nic stealing assists at some point, should this trend continue.  I can't think of too many scenarios not involving a serious injury that frighten me more than an unhappy Dame.  Not leading his team in assists as the starting PG will most certainly damage Lillard's brand if things continue deep into the '13/'14 campaign.  

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  1. BDawg
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    Posted 11/11/2013 9:05 AM


    Posted By commontongue on 11/10/2013 8:56 AM
    Winning the Euro Championship has done wonders for Batums confidence. He looks like he belongs out there. He's playing with a different swagger.


    It is my hope that with his increased confidence will come consistency. My only issue with this thread wasn't the premise, but rather the prematurity. For me, I need a larger sample size before making a determination about any one player's impactfullness...bad OR good.
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  1. cmeese47
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    Posted 11/11/2013 10:18 AM

    I disagree with the confidence thing he still seems hesitant to put up shots I do not want to see him become a Monta Ellis style chucker but taking a few bad shots away from Mo Williams would make me happy. 

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  1. riverman
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    Posted 11/11/2013 3:25 PM

    Nic was a huge factor in Lopez logging his first double double. Robin is not yet used to Batum's passing and reacted too slowly for quite a few of Nic's no look passes. If Dame would have been able to shoot the ball, Nic may have had 20 assists. Wes is benefitting from Nic's unselfish play as well and don't forget how much energy Nic spends defending his assignment. 6 games in, the starters look like they're starting to get into a rythym as a unit. Most of our early turnover woes have been corrected and other than moving picks or delay of game, many turnovers were from Nic's passing into the post where a teammate was not ready for it.
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  1. Blazer Fanatic
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    Posted 11/11/2013 8:13 PM

    Mo Williams  7/7  in the 1st half vs Detroit.

     

    Double- Doubles

    Lopez 1

    Hickson 0

  1. Blazer Fanatic
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    Posted 11/11/2013 8:14 PM

    Double- Doubles

     

    Lopez 1

     

    Hickson 0

  1. riverman
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    Posted 11/11/2013 10:00 PM

    Posted By Blazer Fanatic on 11/11/2013 8:14 PM

    Double- Doubles

     

    Lopez 1

     

    Hickson 0

    Lopez 2

    Hickson 0

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  1. Blazer Fanatic
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    Posted 11/11/2013 10:18 PM

    Double Doubles

    Lopez 2

    Hickson 0

  1. Blazer Fanatic
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    Posted 11/11/2013 10:19 PM

    LOL  Riverman, that was before tonight.   ; )
  1. stacksfan2005
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    Posted 11/11/2013 11:27 PM

    batum is playing unselfish ball. he scores when he needs to and makes the extra pass when wes or dame have the hot hand. i cant see how anyone can be critical of batum this season, the team is building a good team first chemistry and we have the bench to step up when someone is having an off night. 


    i dont think dame being jealous of batum's assists is anything to worry about. we want wins, who cares about individual stats. lillard has a better chance of being an all star in the west if our team is top 4-5 ranked than he does if he averages 1 more assist per game than chris paul. simple fact is paul is going to be the west starter because its based on fans vote. the best way for lillard to make the cut is to have wins and make headlines.


    on top of all that i dont see why dame would be the jealous type, he's a competitor, he'll just work harder if he see's it as a challenge.

  1. BDawg
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    Posted 11/12/2013 6:37 AM

    I honestly didn't see LMA coming out and complaining about Hickson stealing rebounds either.  Aldridge is, by all accounts, a high character individual and this team's leader.  If HE says something, isn't it possible anyone could.  I wouldn't use the word "jealous", rather, "businessmen" where brand and paydays are concerned.  Court of public opinion has long been critical of LaMarcus' rebounding, which may very well have been behind the frustration that led to his comments.  I just thought I'd pose the question.


    As Mike and Mike pointed out during the Pistons game last night, Portland is the only team with two players in the top 20 for assists (Dame and Nic), and Nic is behind only Lebron for assists for forwards, just like last year.  Winning often is the cure all as well.  Last season was forgettable.  This season still a blank slate.

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  1. BDawg
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    Posted 11/12/2013 6:47 AM

    @ BF and river...how many dub-dubs did JJ have at this point last season, playing in Lopez' spot under the same coach, with the same four starters and a lesser bench?  That was my point.  To take that one step further, one could reasonably argue the Blazer frontcourt last season was more productive.  While Hickson was balling out of his mind at this point, his deficiencies still an unknown, and rewriting a double-double standard with every game, Lamarcus was rebounding at a better rate than he is now with Lopez...despite the vilified, rebound stealing Hickson at his hip.


    That said, I do believe Lopez is still acclimating and will only continue becoming more impactful with each start.

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  1. BDawg
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    Posted 11/12/2013 7:02 AM

    This cannot go without saying...


    Nice one-handed put-back throw down, baseline left, with about 2:30 left in the third Nic.  

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  1. riverman
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    Posted 11/12/2013 9:10 AM

    Posted By BDawg on 11/12/2013 6:47 AM

    @ BF and river...how many dub-dubs did JJ have at this point last season, playing in Lopez' spot under the same coach, with the same four starters and a lesser bench?  That was my point.  To take that one step further, one could reasonably argue the Blazer frontcourt last season was more productive.  While Hickson was balling out of his mind at this point, his deficiencies still an unknown, and rewriting a double-double standard with every game, Lamarcus was rebounding at a better rate than he is now with Lopez...despite the vilified, rebound stealing Hickson at his hip.

    That said, I do believe Lopez is still acclimating and will only continue becoming more impactful with each start.


    BDawg, my criticism of JJ is based on his lack of defense in the post which we are immeasurably better at this season than last season. Lopez in the paint has increased team rebounding across the board from last season. Our frontcourt is deeper, protects the paint better, sets better screens, alters shots, shares the ball and helps on defense...all things sorely lacking last season. Difference between this season and last season was the season opener beating the Lakers in LA on opening night in front of the world on nationally broadcast tv. 2 seasons ago we were even better the first 7 games of the season with Camby and Gerald Wallace. Unfortunately Camby only really gave us 7 good games before he became a locker room cancer and jump shooter while costing us 13.3 mil. JJ was playing for a contract last season and now that he has one in Denver, he's not impressing anybody. Lost his starting job 4 games into the season and he could not compete against LaMarcus or Lopez when we beat Denver. Ask his frontcourt mates what a difference Lopez and Freeland have made over JJ as our center. They've been unanimous in their praise of the new frontcourt. JJ is a valuable asset to have on your team off the bench. At this point he is better than TRob but not better than Lopez.
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  1. BDawg
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    Posted 11/12/2013 10:40 AM

    Points taken, and I believe our differences are simply semantic.   I agree with everything in your post river.  Statistically speaking, no arguing JJ at this point last season with this same team Robin has around him, same coach and same system was better.  Research reveals numbers that do not lie.  That said, what you have written is also true.  The team is better with Lopez at the pivot.  Defensively, the rotations are there and getting better with each and every game...the word rotation is one I don't believe Hickson could spell, let alone physically do.  If you'll remember, even during that early season stretch last year when everyone was drinking the JJ Kool-Aid, I was posting here the question 'why was the man never offered a multi-year deal in either CLE or SAC?'  In those threads, I speculated there must be SOMETHING there we as fans aren't privy to that management has seen.  Maybe Denver is seeing that now.


    I also questioned the motivation, or lack there of, of one TRob here earlier this year.  I am still questioning.


    I am concerned, though not overly, that Nic is leading this team in rebounds.  I believe that with Lopez now acclimating at a very noticeable rate, that will soon change.  

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  1. cmeese47
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    Posted 11/12/2013 12:17 PM

    Neither JJ or Lopez are not doing that well statistically. Per 48 minutes JJ is averaging around 16 rebounds per Lopez less than 9. That is a big difference. 

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  1. Blazer Fanatic
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    Posted 11/12/2013 8:10 PM

    In other words, they are both doing well statistically?  Double negative fail.

     

    Flip the stats all you wish.  Portland is much better off. 

  1. cmeese47
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    Posted 11/12/2013 9:25 PM

    I never argued that they were not nor would I. Hickson is a terrible defender and he is undersized in the pivot. 

    He is however a much more aggressive rebounder. 


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  1. stacksfan2005
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    Posted 11/12/2013 9:48 PM

    lopez is boxing out allowing the guards to snag boards, who cares who gets the statistic


    as a team we are currently tied for 12th (43.7) in team rebounds per game up from number 24 (40.8) last year.
    with +2.3 more than the opposing team on average, keep in mind we already played houston once, as opposed to -1.6


    and 6th in offensive boards as opposed to 23rd last year. if lopez boxes out a man, sometimes 2 and batum gets a put back, and we win. im fine with his rebounding numbers being lower and batum's being higher

  1. Cailin Pietersen
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    Posted 11/13/2013 8:32 AM

    You know that saying "Stats don't lie"? In this case it absolute rubbish. Per 48 minute stats are totally irrelevant because guys don't play 48 minutes a night. Many nights last season, LA would have 5 boards going into the 4th and suddenly grab 5 more in that quarter. Does that mean he would have 20 boards a night based on the 4th quarter stats. Lopez now gives us what Hickson couldn't and still can't. He is a genuine 7 footer and fills the lane better than Hickson ever could. He's an intelligent guy who hardly has turnover which is something that drove me mad about Hickson. I prefer having Lopez because he is a team player!! JJ was playing for a contract and did so to the detriment of our defense. Matthews is grabbing boards left right and centre. Is that because he is stealing rebounds? 


    Stacks makes a great point about the team as a whole grabbing more boards and every one of them is doing it on the offensive glass. Kobe made a great point back in 07/08 when he spoke about how for every 10 3pt shots a team puts up, it's likely to have just 4 makes (40%) so that means there will be 6 opportunities to grab an offensive board for every 10 3pt attempts. That's something we seem to have bought into and I'm happy that we have done our part as a team in that regard. Lopez and LA can't do all the rebounding. They need help and I'm glad that Wes, Nic and our backups have done their part. 

    I am a fan of shouting Batuuuuuum-Shaka-Laka whenever Nic hits a 3!!!!!
  1. riverman
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    Posted 11/13/2013 5:25 PM

    I always thought it was interesting that these centers made the NBA finals by doing what Robin and Joel are doing..Luc Longley, Will Perdue, Greg Ostertag and Bill Wennington. Just shows stats from centers don't always translate to success. What makes these guys stand out is that they knew their role.
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  1. cmeese47
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    Posted 11/13/2013 5:56 PM

    To that a few of those guys played with arguably the best defensive pf ever in rodman


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  1. BDawg
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    Posted 11/13/2013 6:10 PM

    ...and arguably the most prolific rebounding 4.  Someone has to do the work.  Rambis, Horace Grant, Rodman, Chandler...One on every team

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    Started by benh7777 on 02/12/14 at 10:22 PM

     

    The Blazers were winning!  That is the key word, were.  Blazers are living proof that you can live and die by the jumper.  Lately it has been dying.

     

    Thank God they are 19 games over 500.  Mayb...

  4. Spencer hawes

    Started by jamsmashers on 02/13/14 at 1:03 PM

    Hawes will be a hot commodity by the trade deadline, I would think the sixers could find a better offer.

    However, I do believe Mo Williams could have somewhat of  a high trade value. Olshey needs to make a deal to get a big man while we...

  5. Oh Forum

    Started by cmeese47 on 02/11/14 at 2:39 PM

    How I miss you. I want to take this time to appreciate the Blazers not appreciating the fans. 

  6. Great Article - Portland Issues

    Started by Tim Morrissey on 02/09/14 at 11:19 AM

    Portland Trail  Blazers: 9 Subtle Things Wrong with the Blazers

    Started by Tim Morrissey on 02/09/14 at 10:46 AM

  7. Andrew Bynum

    Started by David Cassaro on 01/07/14 at 1:42 PM

    Yeah and now Blazers have zero interest in Bynum. I really thought he was worth the small risk. If anything he would be at the end of our bench and we use him as a sub. Hopefully we do make some type of trade for a quality back up center. Right no...

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